Unless i am doing some weird art project where i need matrix filters on live video, rotations, or i need to display massive datasets, javascript libs and modern browsers seem to have it handled, even in html 4.
Correct me if I am wrong but flash forums seem really dead and Flex skills are getting freakin rare.
When are you choosing flash and why?
I'm choosing Flash when Flash chooses me. Actually, I'm an open independent designer around here so people come to me when they want Flash specifically.
For me, it's Flash when it is a project that I want to be: 1. Interactive; 2. Self-contained; 3. Designed around usability.
My decision-making is skewed to be based around the abilities of others. With Flash, none of the programmers can screw it up when they test and deploy things. I never do deployment to live servers here so if I did some HTML5 thing: it would fail testing, the programmers would screw up the code; blah blah
With Flash I can deliver one thing that no one can screw up and know that it gets implemented properly and be something engaging and consistent for the user.
Most of the time when I do even an HTML/CSS thing, they put it in a table anyway when they add their .NET code. (I work with retards in case you've missed my one thousand rants around here)
Persist you spent 8hr with IE 7 due to a browser inconsistencies, I know its popular to hate flash but often times with flash you just have some XML and a nice front end, no database. Simple and it can all be done by a single person, I mean you get some photoshops maybe some video, and you make it, I don't get the impression its so simple with html, there is a database guy and front end guy and there are security issues....
Ok I don't venture outside of flash so I am being devils advocate because I am thinking I need to now, but html only wins on standards and browser transparancy, I am not sure the workflow is really better?
I spent 8 hours solving a JavaScript bug to enable Flash to work with SSL within an enterprise software stack with a JavaScript layer deployment requirement.
Originally posted by: persist
I spent 8 hours solving a JavaScript bug to enable Flash to work with SSL within an enterprise software stack with a JavaScript layer deployment requirement.
Flash doesn't do pinball, I think your expectations were too high, getting it to work with SSL and all, should have stuck with just javascript.
I did.
It was getting them to both play nice together sharing data so as not to make redundant data service calls.
I guess I don't understand your point.
Choice is not always as relevant as demand... Talking to an recruitment agency that I rate for being reasonably good, apparently there is a lot of call for Iphone dev, as3 lots of short jobs, flex fairly rare. So it does not look like flash demand has gone just yet. In terms of backend lots of dot net needed. I did not ask about javascript, but php is currently less frequent. I think probably a good time to learn android/iphone app dev, not so sure html5 is yet as marketable.
yeah, no doubt about the android/iOS stuff.
Keith always has interesting blogs on this area...http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=2908#comments
but I am not sure 'Flash' forums being dead really says alot, although it might, I think flash creation just changed to a point where you often have to code to really utilize flash these days, and programmers use forums less. More and more designers pass photoshop files to coders rather than fla's as timelines ever more difficult to flow with current code. Flash has placed itself beyond the reach of many newbies and many creative designers, once it was just using the IDE that was complex but now it's also about complex libraries and mvc, which is maybe a shame in some respects, but has allowed us who have followed along to grow with flash in terms of coding. The creative visual tools though have really stood still which is a shame. I mean something like prefab for away is cool for 3d flash, but yet to really use it much, but flash IDE just gets worse rather than innovate in these ways.
I don't really see why someone has not made a visual tool like flash but for javascript/css maybe they have?
Persist
If you were going to create an IDE for javascript my preference might be to use jeash to code with and obviously some would prefer stuff like moo or jquery but that by and by, and then team that up with some components say ample or maybe yahoo or google do some, but would a timeline make sense and CSS is currently used so to get the stage working you may need a cutdown browser is there one? For timeline I expect you could build one in javascript so you could run it in a normal browser but that might be slow. Well just wondering what your take on a flash like javascript interface is, and are there any products you would copy as my guess is it can be done better than flashIDE? Well if you feel like making one I would be up for helping but I have my haxe javascript bias.
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