Here in Sunny Spain just now:

Global warming my cold, numb, arse.

Also, my wife went to work today... but now can't get back! She's a teacher in Mollet de Valles, half an hour from here on the train... no trains back though, no buses and no taxis. At least she's trapped there with 3 others who also need to get back to Barca, so she's not alone... but still. A bit worrying. I guess there's a hotel in the town somewhere.

This was fun when it started, but it sucks now. :(

damn fucking crazy

NEWSFLASH:

Global warming doesn't mean everywhere suddenly becomes the tropics.

In fact, because global temperature increases mean an increase in the volume of melting polar ice, it is actually more likely that temperate climates will cool.

whut AgeX said.

It's about warming ocean temperatures, not air temperatures.

heh I was gonna go with a stealth troll to see if I couldn't rouse up some shoutiness, but I decided against it and added the closing tag as plain as day.

OPEN YOUR EYES FREEDOM HATERS!

YOUR TAGS, THEY DOOO NOOOOOOOOOOTHINK!!!!!11111

nice infographic i came across this AM ....

Yeah yeah yeah. Just let me know when I get to evolve some damned gills like Kevin Costner.

Originally posted by: oregondave nice infographic i came across this AM ....

am I reading the map wrong, or is there another New Orleans besides the one in Louisiana

Bright and sunny, not a cloud in the sky in Manchester today. My prediction for upcoming months: rivers of blood and locusts

Originally posted by: creepylurker [quote]Originally posted by: oregondave nice infographic i came across this AM ....

am I reading the map wrong, or is there another New Orleans besides the one in Louisiana

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It looks like it has a big plantation and some slave quarters. Or maybe outhouses. Either way, I don't want to go there because that high above sea level I'll probably get nosebleeds.

Originally posted by: creepylurker

am I reading the map wrong, or is there another New Orleans besides the one in Louisiana

that's about right for N.O. proper ... parts are less than 10 ft, but most of the Historic New Orleans is closer to 20 ft ...

however if the levees fail and/or are topped, then it's all academic anyway ... a half mile wide wall of water is quite different from a gradually rising sea ...

ok so maybe there is something to this global warming business after all - the snow has stopped and the missus got a lift as far as a metro station in the city, and is now on a metro (that's the underground/subway) on the way home.

Originally posted by: oregondave [quote]Originally posted by: creepylurker

am I reading the map wrong, or is there another New Orleans besides the one in Louisiana

that's about right for N.O. proper ... parts are less than 10 ft, but most of the Historic New Orleans is closer to 20 ft ...

however if the levees fail and/or are topped, then it's all academic anyway ... a half mile wide wall of water is quite different from a gradually rising sea ... [/quote]

According to the maps I read.. almost all of city of New Orleans is below sea level. Not only that the map had it at 6 to 7 meters above. Hence the problem of getting the water back out.

I suspect that the actual city is that low. The land that surrounds it and the levies near it might mean it takes that much of a rise to see water in the city (assuming no giant storm surge is involved)

Originally posted by: creepylurker

According to the maps I read.. almost all of city of New Orleans is below sea level. Not only that the map had it at 6 to 7 meters above. Hence the problem of getting the water back out.

the highest points in N.O. are, ironically, along the river - where most of historic N.O. is (French Quarter, Garden District, Uptown etc.) - those areas are in the 6-8 meter range.

everywhere else (not directly along the river) is indeed well below average sea level.

It is a pretty chart but it makes a better example of how the presentation of data can be manipulated to shape conclusions than how to provide utility.

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:shrug:

hi everyone

thanks for stopping by, lovely to see you all.

My wife made it home , an hour earlier than on a normal day too.

I just emitted some greenhouse gas.

Originally posted by: oregondave nice infographic i came across this AM ....

This is so much crap. Cities appear flooded over the tops of sky scrapers with a sailboat a mile in the sky. This is a horrible information graphic, and its showing up everywhere. It's just more misleading propaganda.

I don't doubt that a warming trend exists, but cut it out with the condescending horse shit when explaining it to me.

And yeah climate != weather.

pointing to cooling of temperate zones is also a misnomer.

As the entire globe warms, homogenization of the poles with lower latitude climates will cause temporary cooling of temperate zones as entropy increases. Think of ice melting in a glass on a hot day. The ice melts, the whole glass cools and then easily warms in the sun. In this case, once complete mixing is reached and stagnation occurs, rapid, exponential heating will occur in a greenhouse condition to a possible singularity, creating an atmosphere similar to venus...

in 2012 of course.

Is there anyway to just flood LA/Cali and leave the rest of the world intact?

...WITH BLOOD?

Originally posted by: persist

This is so much crap. Cities appear flooded over the tops of sky scrapers with a sailboat a mile in the sky. This is a horrible information graphic, and its showing up everywhere. It's just more misleading propaganda. .

really?

ok - yes - if you just looked at the picture and didn't bother to look at the scale and wonder if the Transamerica building really was just 3.5 meters tall - in that situation, I would agree that it is misleading or condescending.

but it's an infographic - the reader has to take at least some responsibility ... otherwise a pie chart would be misleading because my grandma always cut the pie slices evenly - none of that skinny slice, fat slice bullshit.

Originally posted by: oregondave

but it's an infographic - the reader has to take at least some responsibility ... otherwise a pie chart would be misleading because my grandma always cut the pie slices evenly - none of that skinny slice, fat slice bullshit.

Meh. The creator of the graphic has an even greater responsibility to minimize the chances for misinterpretation. As I said earlier:

It is a pretty chart but it makes a better example of how the presentation of data can be manipulated to shape conclusions than how to provide utility.

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