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FLA/SWF -> FLV. Why is this impossible?


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Candy Beard
 
2007-09-10

Why is this so hard? Why does Flash hate me so much?

I have a single Flash piece. It’s about five minutes long. It has on streaming sound, played from the stage. No actions. No movie clips. Nothing fancy at all.

I want this in FLV form. Why is this so hard? WTF can’t I just export as FLV?

It looks like I have to export it as an AVI, then use the FLV converter to convert AVI-FVL. Why?

But I can’t even do that. I can’t export it as an uncompressed AVI. For some reason, it comes out completely farked, with the video offset both horizontally and vertically, pieces of video playing in the wrong place, all manner of crap.

I can’t export it with compression (at least, not the codecs I’ve tried) because it only dumps 80% of the movie and then stops – four minutes, rather than five.

I’ve tried a SWF -> AVI convertor. It creates the AVI half the time, but doesn’t get the sound.

This should be a 30 second operation, and I’ve been fighting it for two DAYS! WHY????

lithium
 
2007-09-10

export to quicktime using flash cs3, then convert that to a flv.

Candy Beard
 
2007-09-11

Well, I tried that, and the results are ... better. I generally avoid QT because I can't get it to compress to a reasonable size without looking like utter dog poop.

There's a little funkiness at the beginning of the movie and, for some reason, graphic symbols which are set to 'Play Once' instead loop forever in the movie.

BLARG!!!

Shouldn't this be an easy, one-step process?

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2007-09-11

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Candy Beard
 
2007-09-11

It's all predicated on getting the thing out as an uncompressed AVI, first thing. I can't get that to farking work! RAR!!

JLM
 
2007-09-11

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LonelySchnozz
 
2007-09-11

Did you see this bit?

Quote: "I've found a way to convert it easily, using other peoples methods and mine. There is only one problem though. I will first tell you how to convert:

1) Get the SWF and then import it into SOTHINK SWF Decompiler. Then click the 'export resources' button. MAKE SURE that the 'Frames' option is not set - it wastes time and disk space.

2) Then make sure the video option is set as 'flv' and the sound option is set as 'mp3'.

3) Start the convert. Then when done, start the program 'Cinemaforge' and input the video file and use the mp3 as audio. Then export it as an FLV file.

4) Then, use Buraks FLV Meta Program to add any meta tags - (if needed)"

I can't believe that Flash hasn't solved this problem!! What's the barrel? :confused:

LonelySchnozz
 
2007-09-11

Oh... that's the barrel! :eek:

Candy Beard
 
2007-09-12

Originally posted by: LonelySchnozz Did you see this bit?

Quote: "I've found a way to convert it easily, using other peoples methods and mine. There is only one problem though. I will first tell you how to convert:

1) Get the SWF and then import it into SOTHINK SWF Decompiler. Then click the 'export resources' button. MAKE SURE that the 'Frames' option is not set - it wastes time and disk space.

2) Then make sure the video option is set as 'flv' and the sound option is set as 'mp3'.

3) Start the convert. Then when done, start the program 'Cinemaforge' and input the video file and use the mp3 as audio. Then export it as an FLV file.

4) Then, use Buraks FLV Meta Program to add any meta tags - (if needed)"

I can't believe that Flash hasn't solved this problem!!

I can't believe it, either. :shrug:

I did see a few posts along the lines of the one you quoted but they, like this one, always involved up to three additional third-party apps that I don't have. Blargh!

persist
 
2007-09-12

The docs are clear about avi export limitations.

Anyways if you're ambitious you can write your own exporter with Northcode (with the demo of northcode even). But this is tedious method, and requires much thinking on frame rate, and audio sync.

Old fashioned ActionScripted on one frame swf:http://memoryprojector.com/jeff/water/

This kind of swf will NOT convert to avi using Adobe software.

However, using Northcode you can do frame dumps. That same ActionScript as a capture via Northcode playing as a flv:http://memoryprojector.com/jeff/water/filtertoVideoPlayer7.html

The difference in direction of the water is reversed on purpose. I was playing with the swf after I did the conversion to flv.

Northcode:

var ic = 0; captureEvent = function () { updateAfterEvent(); ic++; fscommand("Win.SaveAsBitmap", "CLIENTONLY,c:\tempout\demo"+ic+".bmp"); }; capture = setInterval(this,"captureEvent",42);

kill = function(){ clearInterval(capture); clearInterval(killa); _root._alpha = 50; }

killa = setInterval(this,"kill",20000);

THis dumps bmp files out. The interval determines the frequency of capture. It will not play back at speed, but will look choppy as its dumping frames to bmp. Then you can pull the bmps into any decent video editor as frames. and voila, super quality video. You'll need a wav capture program to cap the sound and then splice it together. Get this right, and your movie will look stunning. It's the only way I have found to get perfect swf to avi to a quality I am comfortable giving to a client. But then they call me the nutty professor at work, and I think my designers and devs want to stab my eyes out with sporks for my detail requirements...

You'll need to learn how to make Northcode projectors, but its fairly easy.

Candy Beard
 
2007-09-12

Originally posted by: persist The docs are clear about avi export limitations.

Frankly, I can rarely find anything in the docs. I got only electronic docs with my installation - no paper manual - and I've found the online help to be nearly completely useless.

Beyond that, I find the export to AVI to be really inconsistent. Sometimes it works, sometimes it crashes, sometimes it creates farked-up video, etc., etc.

Originally posted by: persist Anyways if you're ambitious you can write your own exporter with Northcode (with the demo of northcode even)

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[code]var ic = 0; captureEvent = function () { updateAfterEvent(); ic++; fscommand("Win.SaveAsBitmap", "CLIENTONLY,c:\tempout\demo"+ic+".bmp"); };

<...>

I appreciate the input, but this is EXACTLY the kind of thing I have no interest in doing. It seems insane how difficult it is to do this. Srsly.

Hopefully Adobe will pull Flash's head out of its ass on this one.

My bitterness isn't directed at anyone here.

persist
 
2007-09-12

I have asked adobe about it. being on the betas you get to ask them directly.

"why can't we export properly to video?"

drum roll please...

that's not what flash is for, use aftereffects.

JLM
 
2007-09-12

[Suggested Response] "That's like saying you can't do pinball in flash, seems a shame since swish manages to outputs video." [/Suggested Response]

Swish exports to AVI the beta of swishmax2 is here http://forums.swishzone.com/index.php?showtopic=51155

I have not tried exporting to AVI and you may need to get the current version rather than the beta, you can normally import flash animations to swish and scenes work, so you might be able to import your swf and export it as video.

sKtd_ne
 
2007-09-13

ive always wondered about this as well, ran into the problem years ago with an animation i did that had some as motion in it.

persist: that seems like a great work around, btw that effect is dope captured to video!

mycho
 
2007-10-26

cap it.

then convert it.

then enjoy your weekend.

thunderfish
 
2007-11-24

I always use Moyea SWF to Video Converter to convert flash to AVI with alpha channel, then I can edit the video in Premiere, it always works well, and it can also convert swf to AVI (XVID Video/DIVX Video), FLV and almost other popular formats, you can try it on http://www.swfkits.com/swf_to_video/

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FLA/SWF -&gt; FLV. Why is this impossible?