I'm getting pretty tired of FF's new update scheme. I realise a number is just a number, but when an update breaks compatibility with an add-on that I really rely on -- like Firebug and/or its various plugins -- it properly fucks up my day. So, anyone tried this latest version, and can confirm that it won't break stuff?
i haven't for the very reason you've stated. and honestly i don't like the new release numbering either. 6 just came out as did 5. if they are that frequent its a fucking point release.
They seem to be following Google's convention with Chrome, but the difference is that Chrome seems to handle the change more gracefully. It updates silently, but I've never had an add-on break because of an update. Then again, I really only use Chrome for general web browsing, rather than dev work.
In other news, word is that Chrome is about to take over #2 browser spot from FF...
i should check our stats at work to see if that trend hold true for our site.
These are my stats (from our tracked publications):
- Internet explorer => 57.22%
- Firefox => 19.92%
- Chrome => 15.98%
- Safari => 5.57%
- Opera => 0.68%
And that is for 1.9 million visitors from September 2011.
Chrome probably will take over soon. Still a lot of IE users though.
The stats for my site are so slanted towards developers that they're not much use for analysing browser trends in general.
we're far below 1.9M, but our Sept stats are
Safari - 31%
IE - 25%
FF - 21%
Chrome - 17%
Opera - .24%
What web site is that?
Those 1.9 million are from clients who keep their publication hosted on our server, they are from all over the world and about different topics from small clients (weddings, tourism,...) to big clients like Honda, KIA and Volkswagen and such.
These are "official" stats: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp Can't believe they are true though.
Originally posted by The General
Those 1.9 million are from clients who keep their publication hosted on our server, they are from all over the world and about different topics from small clients (weddings, tourism,...) to big clients like Honda, KIA and Volkswagen and such.
These are "official" stats: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp Can't believe they are true though.
Those are the stats for visitors to w3schools
W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies. These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the average user. The average user tends to the browser that comes preinstalled with their computer, and do not seek out other browser alternatives.
NetApplications is more broad base and the current “industry standard”.
In my experience very few projects match broad industry standards. When looking at a sampling of my sites the numbers are far more diverse.
A national fast-casual restaurant targeting upper-middle class has IE and Safari tied with 30% each. A engineering consulting firm has IE with a commanding 66% lead, while a government site has 50% Firefox usage.
my numbers are from the site I build/manage for the company i work for, collected via google analytics. Over the past year it's like this:
- Safari - 30.5%
- IE - 27%
- FF - 24%
- Chrome 13.5%
even 1.5 years ago it was more like
- IE - 50%
- FF - 35%
- Safari - 15%
Here are the stats from my site, draw your own conclusions:
- me - 99%
- my mum - 1%
i forgot my login to omniture. :( poliguin?!?!? why you no post our stats?
Just looking at the month of September:
- about 25.4 million
- Microsoft about 57%
- Mozilla about 17%
- Safari about 15%
- Google about 9%
- AOL about 0.4%
- Opera about 0.1%
- Other about 0.1%
- Netscape about 0.1%
The trend is interesting, though. IE goes 7 (about 26%), 8 (about 18%), 9 (about 11%), 6 (about 2%)
For firefox, it's 6 (about 10%) then 3.6 (about 5%) For Chrome it's pretty well split between 13 and 14
Originally posted by mosquito
i forgot my login to omniture. :( poliguin?!?!? why you no post our stats?
Oh God you use Omniture too? I share your pain.
Those numbers are purely just traffic. Normally I'd also correlate them to revenue as well as look at other key metrics to see what sort of trend we're getting. Most often it'll be a three month span of comparing browsers along with their spending trends. Not surprisingly, safari users for us tend to spend the most per transaction :P
Omniture isn't all that bad, it just get bad when people start trying to implement without a clear focus on what they are going to use the tool for. And unfortunately it seems that most of the time people have no idea what they are going to use the tool for.
that's because the one's using it have the same level of intelligence as my pet rock.
Let's track EVERYTHING!!
Why?
So we can have ALL THE STATS!!!
To do what with?
WHATEVER WE WANT!!!
Le sigh. Days upon days upon days of retrofitting fucking omniture code into every fucking link on the main website... And strangely, months later, we still don't have any useful usage reports.
why not use GA? Does omniture do something different/better? I see it's an adobe product, so does it tie into flash or something?
*whatamimissing
I use CLICKY! for my stats, it's very good.
Well actually i use Google analytics also but Clicky reads GA data and has a much neater interface. You can set goals and such and track campaigns. And it's cheap.
Originally posted by dashiel
Those are the stats for visitors to w3schools
And most of them are fools. http://w3fools.com/
Originally posted by Tha.Riddla
why not use GA? Does omniture do something different/better? I see it's an adobe product, so does it tie into flash or something?
*whatamimissing
Like every technology it all depends on what you want 
Originally Omniture was its own entity until Adobe bought it back in 2009 - much like how Google acquired Urchin back in 2005. The biggest difference people will notice to start with is that GA is free, Omniture costs money.
GA is pretty good for out of the box and simple data collection, but for more customized work it takes a good bit more work where as customizing is a little more straight forward in Omniture via sProps, eVars and events. Granted you still will pay Omniture for professional services, but you would need to do a cost benefit analysis against trying to build customization into GA. Both have their cost.
For larger enterprises that require a good bit of more robust data Omniture tends to be the tool of choice. For simpler sites GA is probably more preferred.
And from working with reports, the end result is seemingly a result of the complexity of the underlying tool. Omniture is pretty complex compared to GA and as a result the UI is (IMO) pretty difficult to get your head around initially, but once you get used to it, it's not so bad and the power is great. GA is much easier to use right out of the box and has many more useful reporting tools - especially when you get into a certain section and you want to compare other variables that may affect the report (EG, doing a browser report and easily being able to add in cross variables such as location, OS, etc).
Back on topic, I have now upgraded to FF7. Some add-ons are incompatible but nothing I can't live without for a while (FiddlerHook being the only one that's not working that I use regularly). Otherwise, it's hard to spot any differences from v6. :shrug:
Originally posted by Stickman
Back on topic, I have now upgraded to FF7. Some add-ons are incompatible but nothing I can't live without for a while (FiddlerHook being the only one that's not working that I use regularly). Otherwise, it's hard to spot any differences from v6. :shrug:
Exactlty the same here on all points